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Rena was *denk* 6 of 7 als het goed is , ik heb een dik half jaar nadat ik haar kocht , m'n eerste Torsion aangeschaft. Daarna ben ik boomloos blijven rijden. Vanaf voorjaar 2002 rij ik dus boomloos.
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[quote="Cowgirl schreef:

ik ben mijn fjord aan het inrijden met de barefoot.
Hij is nu 5,5 jaar.

Muijs schreef:

En wat betreft het aanpassen van een custommade western zadel aan een veranderd paard kost niet meer tij d dan pak 'm beet 2-3 uur ...

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So long as the saddle is comfortable for you and the horse, can be properly adjusted so no slipping happens, I say go for it.
I am currently starting my second horse under saddle with my BM western treeless saddle. So far, no complaints and nice even sweat marks on the horses.

Francis schreef:

... of komen jullie ook aan huis?

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I started my gelding in a sportsaddle, rode him on trails and in the arena. I saw no drawbacks, but he was very quiet and not broncy so that might make a difference.

I would think he loved it.

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It works. I've done it. My riding gelding did not wear a conventional saddle until a year and a half ago when I felt he had finally stopped growing...sort of, at age 6, and I could rationalize spending the money on something that would not change size. Until then he wore, and outgrew, 2 ortho flexes and a western Bob Marshall. He had also had some ground work done in a Wintec and a conventional treed saddle when he was 3. RIght now I have a Tucker wide tree and another trail/endurance Bob for him, the Bob has a different front pommel and rigging which gives us a little more room in front
When a trainer was nasty and injured my SO's gelding in a conventional, ill fitting saddle, I rehabbed him using the western Bob until I could get him to a decent trainer who had enough different saddles and enough sense to use the best one. Horses certainly can tell the difference if you let them.
The only caution I would say, is you MUST, as far I am concerned, use a good breast collar and rigging set up if you go this route. I also don't use a skito pad at first because they may as well be labeled "saddle sliding around pads." Use felt, woven navaho, rubber grippy, anything but a skito the first time, because the saddle's cinch will loosen up after you ride it 10 minutes and sit down on it, mashing the foam, which, in this circumstance, is not desired. I used double cinches on everything rigged so the back one comes very forward so it's like an endurance rigging, which really stableizes the saddle. The other thing I do, is I do use a conventional saddle also and get them used to what it feels like, and I would do the first several rides in one, because if, heaven forbid, your horse really corks one, the conventional tree will not fold up on you and tend to shift around and catch you if you go down. This would be my main concern, that and the stirrups straps don't have a breakaway like an english saddle. If you can use covered stirrups, so much the better.
I also would do a lot of practicing of walking along besides the horse, pulling on a stirrup, and saying "whoa" , and stopping, and then praising the horse. I would not want to get a foot fouled up in a stirrup on a treeless on an early training ride, I wouldn't want to anytime, but especially then, and have the horse feel the saddle slip over and take off.
After the first few rides, the horse is less likely to buck or loose its balance, and more likely to scoot sideways, because it sort of knows what is going on, and then you'd probably be safer.
I better put in here that neither horse I started in the "floppy trees" with groundwork, rode the first time in a real saddle, and then re switched to the floppy trees ever bucked or uncorked or acted worried at all about being ridden.
Oh! Almost forgot, if you are riding a treeless saddle and try to pony another horse off of your horse, do NOT dally the lead rope on your horn because you really, really need a tree for that because if the second horse sets back, your treeless cannot take the load and you'd better PRAY your breast collar holds...live and learn.