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**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 24-09-05 18:15

American Needing Help - Sorry this is in english.

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 24-09-05 18:15

First I would like to say I am sorry to write in english. I know very little dutch. My daughter is in the Netherlands and she loves horses. My ex-wife took my daughter to the Netherlands and I have not seen her in 12 years. Recently, my daughter and I started communicating.

At one time I was a horse jocky in the United States. I went into the military and after Desert Storm became 100% disabled. My daughter told me that she use to ride horses. She is unable to any more because her mother could not afford it. I would like to locate a place where she can ride and I will be able to afford. I am limited on income due to my disabilities. I hope to get her to the United States some day to teach her myself.

If you could help or know who I can contact to get her back riding horses will you please contact me at daspcom@dasportsmen.com

I am trying to learn dutch. I hope I will be able to write in dutch and contribute to this forum soon.

Thanks,

Aaron R. Cathcart IV

**Geplaatst**: 24-09-05 18:37

Re: American Needing Help - Sorry this is in english.

Geplaatst: 24-09-05 18:37

Hello, first, I wish you good luck with learning Dutch, I've heard Dutch is a pretty difficult language to learn.

To answer your question, it's a bit depending of in what for region your daughter lives now. Secondly, does your daughter wants to learn the English kind of riding or the western way? Because there are different riding schools for that.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 24-09-05 19:16

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 24-09-05 19:16

Thanks for the response. My daughter lives in Spakenburg, N.L.. I think she was learning the english style. I would rather her learn western. If she comes to the U.S. she will be riding western. (That is unless she decides she would like to ride in events that are common to the english style.)

I am attaching some photos of me with a Big'Ole. They were taken for when I was a teenager for a news article.

Afbeelding

**Geplaatst**: 24-09-05 20:06

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Geplaatst: 24-09-05 20:06

Spakenburg? Then she really should come to the National Championships Quarter Horses next month, which is in Bunschoten. Bunschoten-Spakenburg is actually one village.

I live in Hoogland myself and my horse is in Nijkerk, which are both quite close to Spakenburg, if you are mobile. Does your ex-wife have a car? And how old is your daughter?

In the south of Amersfoort (the nearest town) is a brand new owner of a western riding school. http://www.mireillevansoldt.nl/homepage.html This is at the 'wrong' side though, seen form the direction of Spakenburg. It is impossible to reach by bike, from Spakenburg.

In Hoogland we take lessons from Karin van Bekkum, a real pro. We all have our own horses though. But maybe she can come and discuss possibilities with us.

Euh... I'm just thinking... Does your daughter WANT to ride western? This is quite uncommon in the Netherlands. It will limit her possibilities ans it is awfully expensive.

Regular English riding lessons you can take everywhere. In Spakenburg too. She won't need her mother to bring her there. (In the Netherlands older children usually go to their clubs/meetings by themselves, by bike).

So I personally think it is better for her to start riding english at a local riding school. As soon as she can afford it, she can switch to western riding, or make the switch with you in the US.

For all the other readers: I'm not saying that western riding is more expensive, but as western riding schools are much more rare than english riding schools, you need to pay much more for transportation if you don't live right next to such a school (which is usually the case).

**Geplaatst**: 24-09-05 20:19

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Geplaatst: 24-09-05 20:19

Depending on your daughter's age, experience, sense of responsibility and wish to ride she could also consider tring to find a "bijrijdpaard" -paard is the Dutch word for horse-(usually a privately owned horse of which the owner is looking for somebody to ride his/her horse for different reasons) Sometimes they'll ask for a contribution in the expenses and sometimes they'll just expect some tlc for their horse and maybe some help around the barn.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 25-09-05 00:26

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 25-09-05 00:26

I hope her mother will allow her to come to the U.S. and stay when she gets old enough to make the choice. She is now 13 yo. Honestly, I have no idea how well she can. My ex-wife has only let me communicate with her for the past couple of months. Otherwise, I have not seen or heard from her in 12 years. I will have to find a way to pay for my daughters riding instruction directly to the club or school.

Currently I write her letters and when she gets them her mother has to translate them into dutch. When she sends me a letter she has to write them and her mother translates them, then she rewrites them in english and mails them to me. My daughter should not have to do this so I must learn dutch. Due to the long time it takes for our mail to get back and fourth along with the language barrier it is difficult to get the information I need about her riding abilities and wishes. What I do know is she use to take lessons and she wants to ride. Mostly she wants me to teach her to ride. Due to the distance that is impossible.

Thank you for the link. I will check into it. Do you have any information about the riding club in Bunscholten. I may need to check into it since she will be able to go their herself. She has no horse so that may be a problem. I will purchase her a horse when she comes to the U.S. but I will not tell her that because I think it will cause problems.

How can I locate a bijrijdpaard? That may be an option as well.

I will also write her about the National Quarter Horse Championship next month. Is their a link so I can find more information and so I can try to work it out for her to go. I know she will like it. I wish I could take her but the distance and my medical problems make it too difficult. I am mobil but I goto the hospital about once a week so traveling is restricted for me. I also have not told my daughter that I am disabled. I will tell her when/if she is able to come to the U.S..

**Geplaatst**: 25-09-05 01:17

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Geplaatst: 25-09-05 01:17

Maybe it is more easy to arrange direct contact between your daughter and one of us. I think there are not that many other people who have contacts in western and english riding in the area of Bunschoten-Spakenburg besides myself.

So if you can send me your daughter's phone number or e-mail address in a Personal Message I can contact her.

If you want to know more about me first, I can tell you in a PM as well.

**Geplaatst**: 25-09-05 09:54

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Geplaatst: 25-09-05 09:54

Hi Aaron,

Welcom on this board. I hope someone will be able to help your daughter. She looks like a real nice girl. That babyphoto is very cute and the black cat is enormous

Succes in learning the Dutch language so you can communicate directly.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 25-09-05 13:35

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 25-09-05 13:35

Thanks, I am very proud of my daughter. I still remember when she was born (premature and breach). Never have I been so scared. After she was born they put her in the incubator and took me to another room and allowed me to clean her. Since she was breach her legs were folded at the hips so that her feet were touching her shoulders. I was told to hold them down while I cleaned her. After about five minutes I let go to see what would happen and they ploped right back in position. The nurses started laughing and told me they made bets on how long it would take for the dad to get curious enough to let the legs go and see what happens.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 25-09-05 13:38

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 25-09-05 13:38

LindyH, I sent you a PM.

Thanks

**Geplaatst**: 26-09-05 10:55

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Geplaatst: 26-09-05 10:55

Hello Aaron!
I also think that it's better for her to ride English because Western is pretty rare in Holland and it's expensive too. I found you some riding schools in spakenburg-bunschoten:

Manege Groenendaal
Zevenhuizerstraat 154
3751 LD Bunschoten-Spakenburg
0031. 33. 45. 64. 429

Manege het Adelaarsnest
De Kronkels 1
3752 LM Bunschoten-Spakenburg
0031. 33. 29. 86. 585

A 'bijrijdpaard' is a horse that you can ride twice a week or more but you have to pay for it. Usually it costs $40 per month. That's kinda expensive for a 13-year old girl so she could also look for a 'verzorgpaard' that's a horse that you ride but you also take care of it, so you have to clean his stable and everything. Because you help out the owners of this horse you do not have to pay for this.
I hope I gave you the information you wanted.

Good Luck!

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 28-09-05 14:03

Re: American Needing Help - Sorry this is in english.

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 28-09-05 14:03

Montana, Thanks for the information. I will get them a letter in the mail and get more information.

Lindy, I will do some checking on the stable you gave me the link to. Thanks.

I would like to thank all of you for your help. I have been using this forum to help with learning dutch. It is difficult but I should have learned Dutch when I was stationed at Soesterburg AFB.

I wrote a letter to my daughter and asked lots of questions about her riding abilities and what she would like. I hope she will be able to meet with some of you in the future. I am confident she will be around some good people. I also told her about the National Quarterhorse Championship and asked if she will be going. If she is going do you think she could meet with some of you.

**Geplaatst**: 28-09-05 14:05

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Geplaatst: 28-09-05 14:05

Ask her to become a "Bokker" like you are. You can than chat with her via PM.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 28-09-05 17:24

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 28-09-05 17:24

Dank u, Sugarmiss. Ik zal dat doen.

LindiH - kreeg u mijn P.M.?

Ik kan veel van het forum en de posten lezen. Ik hab probleem met het begrip van twee worden in hun betekenissen. Voorbeeld en Plaatsen bij de bodem van het forum. Ik weet het iets heeft met snel antworden posten te doen. Zal iemand me met deze worden helpen?

**Geplaatst**: 28-09-05 17:33

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Geplaatst: 28-09-05 17:33

Voorbeeld is een example en plaaten is to place the reply.

Goodluck!!!

**Geplaatst**: 28-09-05 17:50

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Geplaatst: 28-09-05 17:50

Wow je leert snel daspcom , it didn't sink that deep

**Geplaatst**: 28-09-05 19:18

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Geplaatst: 28-09-05 19:18

Hey Daspcom,

When I read the first posts on this topic, it sounded to me like a fairy tale. "A little girl who wants to take riding lessons, but it is to expensive. When she is older she gets in contact with her father, who lives in America. She comes to him, gets riding lessons, her own horse.. (and they lived happily ever after

)"

I allways dreamed that this kind of stories would still excist. And they do, so it seems! I really hope that this is going to work, it would be a fantastic adventure for your daughter to go to the US!

When your dutch is good enough, you could take a look at some search-pages on the internet. For example www.paarden.pagina.nl or www.paarden-manege.pagina.nl. These are pages showing you a lot of ridingschools both english and western, and they are sorted on location.

By the way, it must be very hard for you not to be able to see your daughter grow up. I understand there isn´t a good relationship between you and your ex-wife, but wouldn´t it be possible for your daughter to come to the US for a holiday, for example in the summerholls, so she could stay for about 6 weeks? Probably I´m just intefering where I shouldn´t, but I think this is an awfull situation for you right now. Well, anyway I wish you good luck with everything, I hope that, with a little help from bokt, your plan will work!

**Geplaatst**: 28-09-05 22:05

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Geplaatst: 28-09-05 22:05

Hi Aaron,

Maybe your daughter can register on Bokt. Besides that the two of you send PM's (personal messages), she can also look for a horse to take care for and maybe ride ("bijrijdpaard")

Btw: welcome on Bokt

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 30-09-05 13:20

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 30-09-05 13:20

Sonja - Ik zal het Internet adres naar mijn dochter versenden. Het is moeilijk wachten coor haar post om aan te komen. Duurt(?) te lang.

Chaai - Dank for de informatie. U bent niet uit plaats(?) met uw post. Het maakte me gevoelsgoed in geeft me wat hoop dat ik mihn dochter kan kunnen zien. Het was gemakkelijker lettend niet op mihn dochter groeit dan realizerend afterword dat alles ik heb gemist. Mijn ex-vrow is bang dat ik mihn dochter van haar zal nemen. Ik zou mihn dochter niet op deze wijze kwetsen.

Sugarmiss - Ik heb vele problemen met geslacht-specifieke worden. Ik werk elke dag aan mijn Nederlands. Ik denk ik mihn wordenboek uitput. Dez zinsstructuur is ook moeilijker. Dat is de reden die ik in eenvoudige zinnen beb geschreven.

Het is het moeilijke proberen om te berekenen wat ik zou moeten doen. Zou ik haar geld moeten verzenden? Ik kon maar dan kan zijn denken ik probeer om haar liefde te kopen. Zou ik haar giften moeten verzenden? Zij wil oorringen maar ik weet van welke niet soort zihn houdt. Alle weet ik zihn houdt van paarden en trekt goed is.

Hieronder is pic van mijn hond. Zijn naam is Bubba. Ik ontwierp en maakte het vest hij draagt.

Afbeelding

**Geplaatst**: 01-10-05 15:27

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Geplaatst: 01-10-05 15:27

Wow, you're learning dutch at high speed. It doesn't matter if you make a mistake in your posts, most of us will understand. That's such a cute dog you have!
Indeed, you can't buy love but I do think that she will be happy with any kind of trendy earrings so she can say, my father bought them in the US. If riding is her one and only dream she will be way happier if you can support her riding lessons! But if I had a father in the US, I wouldn't care about presents or gifts. I would really appreciate it that he writes me letters, tells about himself and asks how I am doing. I think you're on the right track!

I hope that she'll register on Bokt, here she can get all the information she wants about horses and stuff

**Geplaatst**: 01-10-05 15:42

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Geplaatst: 01-10-05 15:42

dont we just love Bokt

je lijkt me een geweldige vader daspcom.

helaas kan ik in deze niet zoveel voor je betekenen (i can't help you much on this matter) maar ik zal ogen en oren open houden. (but i will look arround)

Veel succes!

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 01-10-05 17:59

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 01-10-05 17:59

Ik geef uit deze post uit. Ik wil mijn dochter niet enkele materiaal kennen. Once again sorry.

Laatst bijgewerkt door daspcom op 01-10-05 19:31, in het totaal 1 keer bewerkt

**Geplaatst**: 01-10-05 18:08

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Geplaatst: 01-10-05 18:08

hihi i just told you that you seem like a verry nice father

difficult lanquage that dutch

:D

**Geplaatst**: 01-10-05 18:38

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Geplaatst: 01-10-05 18:38

Geweldig is the dutch word for great

. Most of us don't think of you as a bad father, why should we? We know nothing, or maybe a tiny bit, of your situation so we are absolutely not judging you or your ex-wife. From my point of view and from what I know about this you've made the right decisions, if I were in your shoes I would have done the same thing probably. And again, I still think that you're on the right track by taking it slow with your daughter and ex-wife.

hey, I see you're living in Texas my uncle and his family are living in Kingwood, Texas

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 01-10-05 19:26

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 01-10-05 19:26

Het Nederlands is een zeer harde taal. Ik las het zoals: je (you) lijkt (seem) me (me) een (a’n’) geweldige (terrible) vader (father) daspcom.

Dit is moeilijk op me en ik vraag soms mijn eigen besluiten. “What if?” Ik vraag soms mijn eigen acties en vorge nacht was moeilijk. Ik ben impatient(?) met de tijd die wordt vereist om met mijn dochter te communiceren. Ik heb me veel over deze situatie ongerust gemaakt. Ik zou het woord moeten dubbel gecontroleerd hebben.

Sorry,

Aaron