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PineApple schreef:Ja ok, goed geschreven stuk..weet niet of het zo allemaal is (heb er nog niet over nagedacht)
maar wat ik me afvraag. Wat is je bedoeling van dit topic TS
janesmith schreef:Correctie, Kanelly. Het was wel goed genoeg maar Iran wilde dat ineens niet meer. Dat Israël kernwapens heeft wordt beweerd, maar bewijs is daar nog nooit voor geleverd. Ze hebben nog nooit een test gedaan.
Citaat:Zowel Israël als de VS hebben onderzeeërs met kernwapens in de regio gepositioneerd.
Citaat:Since 2003 Iran has been coerced into playing a nuclear chess game against US and Israel. Western media outlets have been playing the part of cheer leaders for the American Israeli side, preparing the observing masses for the expected American Israeli “checkmate” move against Iran. Not a single day passes without the description and analyses of a tactical move, with each analysis ending with the question of when, rather than if, the Israelis would bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.
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Israeli leaders are crying wolf everywhere they go. They accused Iran of sponsoring terror by arming Hezbollah and Hamas. They keep claiming that Iran is only few months away from building its first nuclear bomb and such a weapon in the hands of the mad Mullahs is an existential threat to Israel. Such a threat, they keep claiming, endangers the whole region including the oil producing Gulf States, and could expand to endanger the rest of the world.
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The Iranian moves
Iran, on the opposite side, is adamant on exercising its own legal right of developing its own peaceful nuclear program similar to any other nuclear member countries in the NPT. Since 2003 Iran had been harassed by the Bush Administration over its nuclear program. Being a member of the NPT the IAEA was sent several times to inspect Iran’s nuclear facilities, but found no evidence of a nuclear weapons program. Refusing to accept the outcome the Bush administration pushed the UN to impose economical sanction on Iran until it suspends its nuclear program.
In order to address any concern about its nuclear program Iran offered to place additional restrictions on its enrichment program including ratifying the Additional Protocol to allow more stringent inspections by the IAEA, open its nuclear program to foreign private and public participation, and allow the participation of foreign representatives within its Natanz facility among others. But the Bush administration rejected the Iranian offer, pushed the UN to impose the sanctions, and in a threatening move sent American military fleet into the Persian Gulf.
Putting Iran under real existential threat, being surrounded on the four sides by American troops, and continually being threatened by the Israelis and the Americans of being hit by nuclear bombs, Iranians had no choice but to exhibit their deterring muscles through their own war games on land, sea, and air. They also purchased the most sophisticated Russian missiles, and recently had joined the Russian navy in their military maneuvers in the Caspian Sea dubbed “Regional Collaboration for a Secure and Clean Caspian”.
The real intentions behind the moves
Israelis know very well that they cannot strike Iran. They fully recognize that decisions concerning the Iranian issue are exclusively American due to Iran’s strength and geopolitical importance in the region. Iran is a large and a strong military country. Economic sanctions did nothing but helped Iranian rely on their own resources. The threats of possible attacks forced the Iranians to strengthen their military forces. Netanyahu’s “Iran first”, “Israel’s existential threat”, and “striking Iran” messages are directed towards the international political community first and towards the Israeli population second.
With the convening of the UN General Assembly this September, Netanyahu is trying to divert and engage the Assembly’s attention into the alleged Iranian nuclear threat. He hopes that such diversion would not give the Assembly enough time to discuss Israel’s war crimes and human rights violations in Palestine and especially in Gaza Strip as reported by Human Rights Watch groups. Netanyahu’s “Iran first” message is also meant to freeze re-opening any peace negotiations with the Palestinians and to escape American and European pressure to suspend colonial settlements in the West Bank.
Internally Netanyahu, like all previous Israeli Prime Ministers, is manipulating the media to bombard the Israeli population with a propaganda campaign filled with the images of the monstrosity of the enemy (Israel’s existential threat) to incite the feelings of fear and hatred of others and of elitecism (God’s chosen people) to unite and to rally the Israelis behind his leadership.
Israelis have come from different countries with different nationalities, social norms, backgrounds, and political ideologies. To unite them together Israeli leaders resort to tactics of fear, hatred, elitecism and war to create some type of national bond among them.
The US wants to control all the energy resources in the Middle East and South East Asian regions. The US has firm footings in the Gulf States, and after the collapse of the Soviet Union it started expanding in South East Asia starting with Afghanistan, jumping to Iraq then back into Pakistan. Now Iran is left in between as a gab in the US continuum presence.
The US wants also to control and manipulate the nuclear technology. After securing Indian and Pakistani nuclear bombs and facilities, the US is now directing its attention towards North Korean and Iranian nuclear facilities. It seems hypocritical of the still nuclear arms producing US to deny the Iranians peaceful nuclear technology. This is especially so since the US had agreed to provide India with nuclear fuel for its reactors, and had entered into agreements with Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan to help them build their own peaceful nuclear facilities.
The US knows very well that it could not stop Iranian nuclear program especially with the present Iranian government. To delay Iranian nuclear program the US is threatening to use the UN to impose economic sanctions not only on Iran alone, but also on countries who would continue dealing with Iran on any level especially those selling refined oil products to Iran. The effectiveness of such sanctions is still to be seen since a lot of countries have trade and business dealings with Iran.
Concluding remarks
Accepting Iran as a nuclear country would not stop the US and Israel from supporting terrorist attacks within Iran as they have been doing for the last six years. The two countries have been supporting terrorist organizations such as Mujahedeen Khalg, Jundallah, and Kurdish groups within Iran. These terrorists are responsible for attacks against Iranian military targets, interrupting power and communication lines to the nuclear facilities, and assassinations of some Iranian nuclear scientists such as Ardeshire Hassanpour. The US will also continue funneling American tax money to the Iranian opposition, as was done during the Iranian election (as confessed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in an interview with CNN’s reporter Fareed Zakaria) to topple down, to weaken, and to hinder the operation of the Iranian government.
Meanwhile the US is planning to take full advantage of the Iranian threat in the region in order to strengthen its grip on the oil producing Gulf States, and to siphon their oil money into the budgets of the American military companies under the guise of security. Hillary Clinton touched briefly on that plan during a televised interview in Thailand stating that nuclear Iran could be contained by an American so-called “defensive nuclear umbrella” over the region. The notion of this nuclear umbrella, if there is such a thing, was the brainchild of Patrick Clawson, deputy director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and Dennis Ross, then senior editor of Middle East Quarterly in 2004. Of course such an umbrella would be developed, built, and paid for by oil money from the Gulf States.
nwoobserver-worldpress.com
The United States was the first country in the world to develop nuclear weapons, and is the only country to have used them in warfare.
Kanelly schreef:Nou ik heb de nieuwsartikelen nog eens doorgelezen, maar ik haal er nergens uit dat het wél goed genoeg was.
De VN veiligheidsraad wilde eerst dat Iran geen uranium meer zou verrijken, dat zou Turkije dan doen.
Dat was in eerste instantie de afspraak.
Maar nu scherpt de VN veiligheidsraad de sancties nóg verder aan....
En zie nergens dat Iran niet meer wil dat Turkije het uranium verrijkt.
Met dat er in het artikel dat je post het volgende staatCitaat:Zowel Israël als de VS hebben onderzeeërs met kernwapens in de regio gepositioneerd.
En hetzelfde geldt toch voor Iran, ze hebben nu nog geen eens uranium dat dusdanig verrijkt is dat genoeg is voor een atoombom. Maar men denkt dat ze het in het geheim wel aan het maken zijn.
Dus Iran is verdacht en krijgt sancties, van Israël wordt het ook beweerd maar Israël is niet verdacht en krijgt geen sancties?
jameyskatje schreef:ken je de wereldgeschiedenis hierover?
jantergouw schreef:De enige landen die ooit iets te vrezen zouden kunnen hebben van Israël, zijn de landen die aan hun grondgebied grenzen. Van Iran heeft zowat de hele wereld iets te vrezen. Daar zit het verschil in wat betreft extreem imago.
Kuggur schreef:jantergouw schreef:De enige landen die ooit iets te vrezen zouden kunnen hebben van Israël, zijn de landen die aan hun grondgebied grenzen. Van Iran heeft zowat de hele wereld iets te vrezen. Daar zit het verschil in wat betreft extreem imago.
Sla eens een geschiedenis boek open over deze regio in plaats van amerikaanse oorlogsretoriek na te praten. Dan kom je er wellicht achter waarom mensen in vele landen in het Midden Oosten de westerse wereld (en dan met name de VS en groot Brittanie) haten. Geloof me ze hebben er erg goede redenen voor.
tamary schreef:janesmith schreef:Dat is nu eenmaal het recht van de sterkste.
Het is ook de verantwoordelijkheid van die sterkste om dat recht niet te misbruiken (of misschien zelfs wel te gebruiken).