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Cassidy schreef:

@ Annelinnie, ik kijk uit naar je verklaring waarom je in de methode MR gelooft, en waarom je denkt dat er op geen enkele andere manier hetzelfde resultaat geboekt kan worden.
Zoals Waratje ook opnoemde: er zijn meer methodes, en misschien zelfs nog effectievere methodes om te voorkomen dat de Pleuris uitbreekt (en je daarom het deurtje van die trailer gewoon open kunt laten)...

annelinnie schreef:

oke, duidelijk..
en natuurlijk respecteer ik ieder anders mening.. maar ik blijf erbij dat voor mij de relatie met het paard duidelijk moet zijn en daarom voor MR kies..
en nogmaals dat van de trailer was een voorbeeld dat ik kreeg, en me ook verteld is bij MR nederland.. en ik snapte het iig en zal mijn paard leren dat de trailer NIET eng is en het deurtje vooraan miss op een kier kan, niet open dus..

Cassidy schreef:

Voor degenen die de moeite niet willen nemen om zich aan te melden en te leren over de andere kijk op Monty's vader, hier even een kopietje. Als je bekend bent met de Join-up via Monty, moet het volgende je toch niet zo heel erg onbekend voorkomen. De vraag die overblijft is dan: wie heeft wat van wie geleerd?

brom: http://www.horsewispersandlies.com, hoofdstuk 16

In 1957, Marvin called it Training a Horse to Catch.

In 1997, Monty called it Join-Up. Monty’s Herculean effort to promote himself, his book, and a nonviolent method of horse training has generally been well received across this continent and abroad. Many of his clinics’ attendees are mesmerized by Monty’s almost mystical power over the horse. How does he do it?

In the 1960s, Dr. William "Billy" Linfoot, a veterinarian from Pleasanton, California, offered demonstration clinics on a method of working with horses that would allow him to mount a "wild, unridden" horse in a matter of minutes. He used the terms "Advance and Retreat" and "Approach at a forty-five degree angle." A review of Dr. Linfoot’s early films offers a glimpse of the natural horsemanship wave to hit the horse industry. Marvin Roberts was a fan of Dr. Linfoot and often spoke highly of the equine veterinarian.


In Horse and Horseman Training, Marvin E. Roberts offered advice on how to teach a horse to be caught in an open area. His directions were simple in 1957. He gave no reason for the action. He only offered that it worked.

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• Use a corral about fifty feet in diameter, turn the horse loose.

• Take a rope about thirty-five feet long, toss it at the horse, and pull it back.

• Make him go one way around the corral and then the other.

• When he slows, make him go on, but do not whip him.

• Keep throwing the rope over his back or behind him.

• When he begins to tire, step in front of him, hands up, and say, "Whoa."

• If he stops, walk up and pet him.

• If he runs away, throw the rope over him and make him continue the run.

• Do this two or three times; soon he will face you when you walk toward him.



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• Use a pen that is fifty feet in diameter.

• Have a light sash thirty feet long.

• Pitch the line toward his rear quarters, it will not hurt him.

• Keep the horse moving. He is retreating. You must advance.

• Get the horse to canter five or six revolutions one way.

• Reverse and repeat.

• When he wants to stop, coil the sash and assume a submissive mode.

• If he stands and faces you, move closer to him, but not straight on.

• Soon he will reach out with his nose to your shoulder, this is Join-Up.


Marvin called it Line work.

Monty calls it Line work.

Marvin believed that line work was another step in teaching a horse. He believed that with line work a horse could learn manners, get the feel of the hackamore, and learn to stop, turn, and change leads before he was ever ridden.



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• Use a buckskin string to form a loop at the knot of a rawhide hackamore.

• Attach the lines to top of the loop and run through stirrups on either side.

• Leave plenty of slack in the reins and attach them to the saddle.

• Put the colt between the lines.

• Get him to canter going either way.

• Stand in the center and let the colt go around you.

• Do not use a whip.

• Do not work him too long.

• If he stops, turn him away from you, do not use the line as a whip.

• Let the colt go the way he starts until he gets the idea.

• Then turn him toward the fence to go the other way.

• With race colts let them make large turns.



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• Attach the lines to either side of the bit rings.

• Run the lines through the stirrups.

• Position the colt between the two lines.

• If inexperienced, try it with an older horse or you could hurt your horse or yourself.

• Ask your horse to circle at the canter and then trot both ways.

• Ask him to negotiate turns and stops.

• Finally, ask him to rein back one step.

• At this point, most horses are ready to be ridden, states Monty

Nette schreef:

Zou de JU een goede manier zijn om dit 'probleem' aan te pakken, of is er een andere manier die misschien beter/vriendelijker is?