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nickyu schreef:

gail4321 schreef:

i know this is alfull when people does this and its a shame the vet has told me he is only just turned 3 so parhaps he might go darker the vet also said its odd to find an horse this age so white the only horses i know that can be so white is lipzanas

there more horses whom are born white ut i still cant see a red cob in your horse
(wich the paper work says)
with 1 of the numbers i also get a new forest

we are all surching to find out more
buth i think it's wise to get a second opinion with a other vet about the age
there the colour is not the only reason why many of us doubt about the age off the horse

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63 31 Bram Vb. 20041075 2 Make My Day x Narcissusfield's Duke Dhr. H. Gerding 2.34 1,42½ 19

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Mystica schreef:

2 levensnummers. Nummer 1: 5280151 Nummer 2: 200441075

holly schreef:

The addres on the passport is from de Nederlandse Quarter Horse Association.

nickyu schreef:

...also a nfjs paspoort

rina schreef:

...Altrough one explanation for finding him in the Fjord Database Horsepasport Stroe uses the connection of the Fjord Assosiation to put there horses in the PVE databank. The PVE is not happy with this. A lot of Quarters, Paints and Appies are all Fjords according to the database This is beiing corrected now.

Roadracer schreef:

Mystica schreef:

2 levensnummers. Nummer 1: 5280151 Nummer 2: 200441075

I want to make a comment on this to clarify some things. This horse has 1 lifenumber: 5280151200441075. I know from the fell pony studbook that they used to have software that could not recognize the length of these numbers. Therefore, they only printed 2004etc on the passports. However, the whole lifenumber includes the 528etc part. Something like that might have been the case with the FjordStudbook (one could check that by asking them). They may have printed it on the passport later on.
So the lifenumber is 5280151200441075.
The chipnumber is 981100000593557.

The horse was registered by the Dutch Fjordstudbook in March, 2008. Every horse can be registered by any official passport-making studbook, independent of the breed, in order to obtain a (legally necessary) passport. Since this horse was registered in March, it is very likely that the sole purpose of registering was for trading purposes / to export him to the UK. Of course, the previous owner could have chosen to register the horse in Belgium, but this might have taken more time, might have been more expensive, or whatever. Maybe he registered more horses at the same studbook? At the same time? Might be interesting to find out. Legally spoken, the horse should already have had a passport in order to cross the border between Belgium and the Netherlands (considering that the previous owner actually owned the horse in Belgium), but it is known that people "circumvent" these passport checks...

Also, it is possible that the previous owner bought the horse in the Netherlands and never transported it to Belgium. In that case, he just needed a new passport for this Dutch horse, therefore asked the Fjordstudbook for registration and papers. Maybe the passport was lost, maybe the passport was never there... It might be interesting to find out when the horse was microchipped. This might give you a clou about a possible previous passport. It is possible that the previous owner bought a paperless, non-chipped horse (this still happens!), microchipped (vet) and registered (Fjordstudbook) the horse and then sold it to the UK.

So, as you see, it's not necessary that the previous owner was lying or doing non-legal things

So far for my thoughts

Mystica schreef:

Roadracer schreef:

I want to make a comment on this to clarify some things. This horse has 1 lifenumber: 5280151200441075. I know from the fell pony studbook that they used to have software that could not recognize the length of these numbers. Therefore, they only printed 2004etc on the passports. However, the whole lifenumber includes the 528etc part. Something like that might have been the case with the FjordStudbook (one could check that by asking them). They may have printed it on the passport later on.
So the lifenumber is 5280151200441075.
The chipnumber is 981100000593557.

You forget the fact that the database of the fjord stubook does not recognise the first nummer. When you fill in the chipnumber, it also comes op with just the last number...

Mystica schreef:

Doesn't sound logical at all to me, but okay

Besides that. Have the NFjPS and NQHA the same adres?
Because it says: uitgevende instantie NFjPS.

rina schreef:

Altrough one explanation for finding him in the Fjord Database Horsepasport Stroe uses the connection of the Fjord Assosiation to put there horses in the PVE databank. The PVE is not happy with this. A lot of Quarters, Paints and Appies are all Fjords according to the database This is beiing corrected now.