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**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 11:41

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 11:41

i think the passport is made just for the export
buth as far as i know the need the injections to be allowed into england ore did the change that resently ?

is the chip number checkek with the chip into the horse ?
and are the theehts checked ?

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 11:51

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 11:51

I ran his chipnumber trough the database of NFjPS, and the database said:

Identicicationnumber - Name : 20041075 - JUST MICKEY
Chipnumber : 981100000593557
Date of birth : 2004
Sexe : Male
Colour: Chestnutt Grey
Breeder: DERUYCK D. - KLUISBERGEN
Owner : DERUYCK D. -
Pedigree unknown

This is the link to they're website:
http://www.fjordstudbook.com/
You could try to contact them.

I think it's strange the horse has a identificationnumber, but no pedigree Nagelbijten / Gniffelen

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 12:01

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 12:01

I found the next thing, but i think you've already found it..unfortunatly I can't open PDF, so if anyone can?

Search with these words at google and a pdf appears, meaby his email adress will follow.

Dirk Deruyck transportbedrijf en paardehandel Kluisbergen

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 12:17

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 12:17

dirk deruyck is someones who buys en sells horses. Those people never say where a horse comes from. Pedigree is unknow. Chance is big that he buyed this horse without chip en just filled in everything with his name. He's probably not the breeder. maybe you can post a message on kapaza.be. maybe someone recognize him there.

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 12:34

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 12:34

Transport bedrijf. That means he could have bought the horse to ship it to England wright? Maybe tou could also post this message on www.bokt.be ? ( Does that still exist? Clown

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**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 12:36

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 12:36

or on www.kapaza.be and www.kapaza.nl

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 12:59

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 12:59

hi this is the front of the passport and the first page i have had his teeth checked few days ago and they are telling me that hes not 4 he has only just turned 3 he is 16.1 now .

Afbeelding

he is such a lovely lad it would be nice to find hes parents so i could reg him and show him .

he does not have any melonnomas
have had the chip checked against the horse and it is correct. so this is hes chip number.ive tryed ring numbers on passport but never ring out.

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:14

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:14

the paspoort is from 19-3-2008
and says rood schimmel
your horse on the foto does not look a rood schimmel to me Bloos

to much black/grey in the manes and tail
type cob ..
paspoort is probably made tjust for selling reasons
so or the original got "lost" or i do not know just now

as earlier said he looks very familiar
do not know why yet

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:25

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Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:25

Hey did you see that? He has two numbers? A Dutch number and the Belgium number. The Dutch number says its his lifenumber, but it starts with the 528, and almost all horses wich have a transpondernumber starts with the 528..I will look for it.

Adri messages me back and she says you can ask you question also at www.paardenspeurder.be

Its a Belgium site for people who saerch for there horse or last owner..Hopefully people from there will recognize your horse?

Just wat Nickyu says, roodschimmel, he doenst look like that..it means that his formilliar (dont know how to write?) colour when he was born was red..but his tail and manes says he was black at birth or brown..

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:28

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:28

16.1 (hands?) is about 161 cm.

This horse is just turned 3? He looks older, see his muscles and the charisma. When you bought him, he was easy to ride?

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:38

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:38

Well, i think he has the Dutch lifenumber cause his registration was in Holland, by the Dutch passport in Hoenderloo..and he has the Belgium chipnumber..I didnt knew that was possible..but okay..

Nickyu, you are not the only one who think the horse looks formilliar (that word again, grr, haha)..but really dont know from what..yet..and no, not because of sinterklaas Tong uitsteken

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:45

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:45

Isn't it possible that the horse was bred in Belgium --> Belgian chipnumber but that he is a dutch warmblood --> dutch life number?

04.1075, can't this be a number of KWPN or NRPS?

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 13:48

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 13:48

when i had him you could see hes ribs and hip bones but i put it down to travelling i then fed him on allen page weight on and good grass and used the passoa to get ges muscle back up he is a gelding and the bloke in england that i brought him off said he broke him he as a laid back attitude acts more like a 12 year old he is currently in training for dressage .
he is so lovable.just want to find who really had him Verdrietig

he is still growing and think he may get to 17hh hope not ill need step ladders im only 5ft 3 he he.

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:49

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:49

or he does not want to remember like a lot of handlers do
(specialy when it concenrs "wrong"horses)

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 13:50

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 13:50

theres know way mickey is a cob i think this was guess work on there half as you can see in photo he has know feathers and not built like a cob

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:56

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Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:56

Does he has een stamp somewhere on his bottom?

hoe zeg je brandmerk in engels?

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 13:57

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Geplaatst: 23-07-08 13:57

Gail, may be I missed it, but when dit you buy him? Since when is he in England?

I do not understand the part of breaking the horse. Can you (or someone else) explain?

Even verder in het nederlands. Stel dat dit een Nederlands gefokt paard is, maar dat ie in Belgie geboren is. kan het dan niet zijn, dat het dier van een Belgische vee-arts een chip krijgt en dat dit doorgestuurd wordt naar het nederlandse stamboek? (Zit niet meer zo in die fokkerij namelijk). Zo kan ie wel een nederlands levensnummer en een belgisch chipnummer hebben.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 14:09

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 14:09

sorry i dont understand dutch and dont know what your saying the guy buys them from abroad breaks them well i think he does and them sells them for alot more money.

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 14:11

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 14:11

know brand marks now tatooes

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 14:13

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 14:13

he come into england not long after passport was done i brought him in the middle of april.

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 14:13

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Geplaatst: 23-07-08 14:13

Sorry Gail for us speaking Dutch, later I will try to translate..we try to find something out very quick, but when we have to concentrate at english Tong uitsteken

Mystica..het chipnummer is Belgisch, maar het levensnummer idd Nederlands..opzich hoeft dat niet uit te maken, gezien hij geregistreerd is bij het fjordenstamboek..maar hoe kan een paard wat een beglisch chipnummer draagt in maart pas in nederland geregistreerd zijn? Dan moet er toch een paspoort vanuit Belgie zijn ook? Dat zou inhouden dat er ergens nog een duplicaat moet zijn dan, maar dan een belgische? De belgische eigenaar staat erin vermeld en tevens als fokker..wat al raar is, gezien we het hier over een handelaar hebben, maar ok, kan zijn dat er wat in gevuld moest worden..
Nu denk ik dat dit paard andermans paspoort met zich meedraagt, gezien het roodschimmel en cob verhaal? maar volgens ts klopt het chipnummer wel, is nadien nog gecontroleerd..

wet iemand of er in belgie aan andere zijde van de hals wordt gechipt? dan kan er mogelijk nog een chip inzitten..

ik heb al bij http://www.pve.nl gekeken, daar herkent hij het Nl chipnummer niet..de belgische kwam er bij iemand anders al uitrollen en die komt overeen met de gegevens van de vorige eigenaar, de handelaar..

apart..zeer apart.

Rocamore, ik denk het wel, zo lees ik het wel iig..

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 23-07-08 14:14

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Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 23-07-08 14:14

could someone please translate HOPLAS MESSAGE

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 14:15

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 14:15

idd Hopla, Saenx was dat Lachen

het gebeurd dagelijks, vandaar dat we nu ook ff in NL praten om elkaar beter te begrijpen Lachen

Gail, it looks like the horse is especially chip for his shipping to England..Can you aks your vet if he it is possible he has a transponder also at the other side of his neck?

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 14:17

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Geplaatst: 23-07-08 14:17

Hoplay says that it often happen in Holland, Belgium, everywhere that a handler 'sjoemel' knows what he does to sell a horse, but ot in honesty...just for making money..some horses are being sold with false papers and passports..thats what we are thinking about with your horse..

**Geplaatst**: 23-07-08 14:17

Re: [EG] does anyone know my horse

Geplaatst: 23-07-08 14:17

You mean no brand marks, no tattoos?
To know is a verb. I mean this is a Dutch forum and English is tough enough for us to read if it is correct.