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**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 01-09-09 12:21

[EG]Anyone know my horse's Past, Tohilde ?

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 01-09-09 12:21

Im starting with, Sorry .. Im not so good at Dutch, so im writing in english. I came from Denmark

So hope u can understand

Im a 19 yrs old girl from Denmark, who are searching after something about my horse, Tohilde (Ohilde X Osmium)
She's from Holland, so i hope any can help me, to find anything about my horse's past in holland.
I only know, that she has been owned of Christian Sellies from Danastables from many years ago, so i really hope, anyone can help me, to find her past, pictures, etc.
Theres some pictures of her here from me in Denmark;
http://hestegalleri.dk/html/alb_vis.asp?AlbumID=166663
I'vd been told, that she has startet the 6-tallen verenigingskampioenschap in Holland.

and heres a picture some has send me; http://www.enpromo.nl/fotoarchief/2007/ ... _2425.html

So if anyone know something about her, or know ANYONE who know something about her, I REALLY like to hear !

I'll be so much happy, for any kind of help. So please Write me.
I Really hope, any can help me

My Email is Off_dexxa@hotmail.com

My horse is named Tohilde, and come from Dutchland/Holland. She's brown and after Osmium and Ohilde (Olympic Ferro is grandpa')
For an years ago, she came to Denmark to Stutteri Hasselholt in Denmark with Liza Wurtz.
I Brought her from there this year 2009.
I Love her Very much, but I REALLY like to find out some more about her past. Have she been startet alot, Was she also a lovely horse in Dutchland, how was she, how did she look at foal, etc.

So if anyone know something about her, or know ANYONE who know something about her, I REALLY like to hear !

I'll be so much happy, for any kind of help. So please Write me.

Hugs Pia Lundeberg

Laatst bijgewerkt door petraaken op 02-09-09 09:11, in het totaal 1 keer bewerkt
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**Geplaatst**: 01-09-09 15:16

Geplaatst: 01-09-09 15:16

Yes I do...

If you like i can give you the emailadress from Christian Sellies, I also can give you his phonenumber...

**Geplaatst**: 01-09-09 18:30

Geplaatst: 01-09-09 18:30

Did you received your mare's official KWPN papers and passport when you bought her?
Or were you merely 'informed' of her pedigree?

Your horse, a mare, was born in 2000 ... this being the 'T' year with the KWPN and in connection with rider Christian Sellies she is listed on the Dansastables sites in July 2006 as being a relatively green horse needing more training. She is also listed as having won a B-dressage competition (199 points) in Holland on November 4th, 2006.

And now for the disturbing news ... there is also a horse competing in England under the same name with exacting the same pedigree ... only its a gelding!!!
- http://www.britisheventing.com/asp-net/ ... seId=72548: 26/5/2007: Rider: Dr Sam Edwards : Finished 26th out of 32,
- 18/8/2009 : S.Edwards 3rd in dressage with Tohilde in Yorkshire
- Tohilde in England has sport registration number: 4688504101 and her rider's membershipno: 302775

**Geplaatst**: 02-09-09 09:11

Re: [EG]Anyone know my horse's Past, Tohilde ?

Geplaatst: 02-09-09 09:11

F-AM --> OV

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 18-01-10 18:04

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 18-01-10 18:04

Yeah Its very fustrating.
I got a passport on Tohilde from KWPN where her's chip number also are in it, and in my passport shes also names as a mare.
Have seen that theres a Tohilde in England. Its also very fustrating and kind of wired :S
Im my passport theres also all the vaccine Tohilde got in Holland, and one in UK (England).
I have talked with Christian Sellies, and he send me pictures when he was riding her, so i have seen, that its her.
But what about the other horse ? Do he have same papers as mine ?

Can someone maybe please help me to translate thet information on the Danastables homepage to english ?

**Geplaatst**: 18-01-10 18:25

Geplaatst: 18-01-10 18:25

If you have a KWPN passport with listed chip number and wherein her vacinations are also listed, then I would not worry about the authenticity of her papers/passport.

There is a free google translator where you can choose the languages you want to translate to and from.

I have already informed the KWPN and the British authority about the false passport circulating in UK for this gelding. To date no response from either and also not from the rider.

**Geplaatst**: 19-01-10 15:16

Geplaatst: 19-01-10 15:16

maby its a full brother?
same parents?
who is the breeder of the mare?

**Geplaatst**: 19-01-10 15:17

Geplaatst: 19-01-10 15:17

knooopje schreef:
maby its a full brother?
same parents?

Listed as same parents AND same name AND same birth year AND same KWPN nr.

**Geplaatst**: 20-01-10 14:09

Geplaatst: 20-01-10 14:09

Tohilde is a mares name. So I think that the gelding had false identification papers.

http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=511494

it says export to denmark, so you have the right horse. So I'm curious what kind of papers the gelding has.

Laatst bijgewerkt door Tanja op 21-01-10 10:36, in het totaal 1 keer bewerkt
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**Geplaatst**: 20-01-10 15:43

Geplaatst: 20-01-10 15:43

Here you see the translation of the frontpage=

The ontstaan of Dansa Stables The ontstaan of Dansa Stables is to two by knowing bred mares the family lead Bronsink, Sodansa and Jigranta. These two mares the beginning has been of two fokkerij lines. Initially the descendants were bred, for the thumping or mare testing brought and afterwards sold. End 2002 has come there, with the arrival of marjoram Gevaert, change in. They got ditch hook, a descendant of Crack C x Bigranta, and Podansa, Gribaldi descendant from the line of Sodansa, in training. It was the intention bringing out the horses firstly on games and afterwards for sale to offer. ditch hook has been thus sold to America; Podansa have gained the highest level in the basis and for the fokkerij are nowadays used. After ditch hook and Podansa own foresail products still more followed. Thus came Udan, Urbanus, from art and Udansa in training at marjoram. Because she has to not enough be able train all horses time entirely, it was decided zoeken the Amazon who could complete the team. Thus we ended up at Evelien Kraaijenbrink, she ran training period at marjoram in Biddinghuizen. She has connected himself, after its training period, at the Dansa Stables team. Evelien have started on the Son the Niro descendant Zodansa. This mare has been sold in the summer of 2008, afterwards they the traning of the gribaldi mare have taken Adansa at its expense. Adansa have got a beautiful mare skid of Florencio, Evelien have resumed the training and bring out its now successfully in the sport. The next team member is Marije van Kersbergen. She trained firstly Vodansa and her has brought out up to and including L2. Vodansa have been sold end 2008 and afterwards have Marije the training of Wamorka have been in itself taken, she brings out its now successfully in the class M2. Pupil Chantalle came in Halfwerk in fact gradually the team rolled. She drives Waterproof in the class L2 at this moment its own horse. We got Butterfly on stable and asked Chantalle if them the training of these black Son the Niro take descendant in itself wild. She has done that and meanwhile brings out them its in the class B dressage. The brothers Wim and Sander Bronsink make all horses keuringsklaar and later saddle-meek. Both are more devotees of to jump and eventing, but nowadays them, with so much dressage puncture cherry for them gone, nevertheless also the dressage ring in must with their young horses. All in all fine, sociably and floated a team! We hope still much new breed top press in the future and successfully in the game postage bring to be able. Further the last news reads! for an overview of all horses, the successes and the careers of the members of the Dansa Stables team and the latest news

On the date 03 maart 2007, you can find a result from Tohilde~

weapon field: * On Friday evening Wamorka under Wim could as a first of start. Wim were themselves not entirely satisfied concerning its test, but the witnesses found all that he had neatly driven. Him thus with 198 points and with that finished he rewarded the jury on 3e a place! * Wodansa were for the first time on competition. She had what gains experience for IBOP-proef which she will run at the end of the month. Them ran by the job as if she has never differently done. She let note immediately megascore of 202 points in the class B. them stood with that on the first place, but since them had started HC, she did not count toward the klassement. * Padiana made for the first time its opwachting in the class M2 and how! Them ran a fantastic test, even the keertwendingen and it backward succeeded well! However, she had just as what tension could not that press at the aangalopperen, but the fun, because she became 3e with 200 points! * Trotted ultimate very fine, but was what drammerig in the gallop part, in which he showed also promptly changement during contra-galop… To be starts trot enlargements, however, much improves to become. He became 2e with 201 points. * Finally Udan in the ring appeared. He let weerzien a good trots and step part, but started too enthusiastic to the wissels. In avance it had been agreed that we would make real trainingsrondje of it, for this reason we all failed wissels have again driven. That produced, however, the necessary minuses and badly figures, but he for the first time all wissels have jumped well. He got nevertheless still 213 points! Also several students came to the start: Evelien Kraaijenbrink came for the first time to the start with Valentino, them at each other done in the class B. super drove 187 points for the first time! Christian also started Sellies with Tohilde in the class B and scored exactly two points more, therefore 189 points. Also Ellen Jansma started with president in the b dressage, she got 186 points. Jan-Gert stone mounts let weerzien also a better test with its horse Viana. He got 173 points. In L1-dressuur were Wijnand Schuurman also of the party and he put himself directly on the card with one 4e place and 183 points. He was immediately followed Laura Dijkslag with from art on 5e a place, also with 183 points. Maaike Westmaas drove a dared test with Udansa in L1, but had unfortunately what tension in the gallop part, as a result of which continued put the points on 176. In the class M1 Annemiek Wilbrink came in the ring with Tylena. She got 181 points and drove with that its last profit point in M1. Next time them in M2-ring be will admire. Bianca Koorn drove with Urbanus also in M1. Urbie had the necessary tension and as a result, were possible the jury no longer than 176 points lost.

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