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**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 06-01-09 01:53

[PG] Shamira [NRPS], casper x samira

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 06-01-09 01:53

This is probably not the right place for my post, but i dont speak any dutch and i need help with something.

I bought a horse from a horse dealer, who buyes and sells horses. She buys from the netherlands and sells to finland.

I bought an arabian/welsh mix pony from her, and i know that she is originally from Wilms P.J.H., from Beringe. She was born in 1993 and has had several owners in the netherlands. Her name is Shamira and her registration number is NPA 930766.93.

She has 5 foals, called Samira, Vivaldi, Esmeralda, Goldika & Valdemar.

Can you help me find any information on her past?

Or direct me to a place where i could find someone who either knows Shamiras ex-owners or something about her or her offspring.

Thank you so much!

Here's a link to her pedigree http://www.sukuposti.fi/fakta.php?Numero=681269

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**Geplaatst**: 06-01-09 01:56

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 06-01-09 01:56

do you know the sire of your horse?

**Geplaatst**: 06-01-09 01:59

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 06-01-09 01:59

This is her grandchild at the gradings:

Venja Samira NPA 528008040083604 Stb, Geb. 19.05.2004, Vos, Chip.nr. 528210000548935
v: Vitano NPA 980010.95 Stb
v: Vita Nova's Hanassie 13296 Stb-K ; pref; prest.fok
m: Samira NPA 960224.96 Stb; ster
v: Bayard NPA 930002.90 Stb
m: Shamira NPA 930766.93 Stb; keur
v: Casper NPA 910003.87 Stb; pref
m: Eveline van Stal 't Frieden NRA 931754.90 Stb
v: Shihab Magic ox A 432
F/E: Mw. R. van den Bijgaart-Bastiaansen, Klokkenlaan 30,
5175 NV LOON OP ZAND

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 06-01-09 02:00

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 06-01-09 02:00

Yes, Shamira's sire is Casper 910003.87 STB NPA, and Sire's Sire is Conquistador 5237 STB-K (NPA STB 87.3) Pling

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 06-01-09 02:02

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 06-01-09 02:02

janderegelaa schreef:
This is her grandchild at the gradings:

Venja Samira NPA 528008040083604 Stb, Geb. 19.05.2004, Vos, Chip.nr. 528210000548935
v: Vitano NPA 980010.95 Stb
v: Vita Nova's Hanassie 13296 Stb-K ; pref; prest.fok
m: Samira NPA 960224.96 Stb; ster
v: Bayard NPA 930002.90 Stb
m: Shamira NPA 930766.93 Stb; keur
v: Casper NPA 910003.87 Stb; pref
m: Eveline van Stal 't Frieden NRA 931754.90 Stb
v: Shihab Magic ox A 432
F/E: Mw. R. van den Bijgaart-Bastiaansen, Klokkenlaan 30,
5175 NV LOON OP ZAND

Where did you find that information on? Pling

I understand keur is the best rating from a show?

Is there any way to find the owners of her foals or Shamiras past owners Lachen

?

**Geplaatst**: 06-01-09 09:42

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 06-01-09 09:42

Owner: F/E: Mw. R. van den Bijgaart-Bastiaansen, Klokkenlaan 30,
5175 NV LOON OP ZAND

**Geplaatst**: 06-01-09 17:22

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 06-01-09 17:22

[PP] > [F-AM]

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 06-01-09 22:28

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 06-01-09 22:28

janderegelaa schreef:
Owner: F/E: Mw. R. van den Bijgaart-Bastiaansen, Klokkenlaan 30,
5175 NV LOON OP ZAND

How do you know thats the previous owner? Lachen

**Geplaatst door de TopicStarter** : 06-01-09 22:30

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 06-01-09 22:30

Oh that must be venja samira's owner.

**Geplaatst**: 06-01-09 22:32

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 06-01-09 22:32

It's the owner of her grandchild I think, not the ex-owner of herself Tong uitsteken

[edit] Indeed Lachen

**Geplaatst**: 06-01-09 23:16

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 06-01-09 23:16

That's what she is also asking for. Owners of her progeny.

**Geplaatst**: 07-01-09 16:49

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 07-01-09 16:49

If you have a little patience I can give you a foto of her sire and maybe grandsire. Casper now stands in France for breeding.

**Geplaatst**: 07-01-09 19:30

Re: My horse came from the netherlands, can you help?

Geplaatst: 07-01-09 19:30

Casper: http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10456146

**Geplaatst**: 10-01-09 23:37

Re: [PG] Shamira [NRPS], casper x samira

Geplaatst: 10-01-09 23:37

-> VMR-OV

**Geplaatst**: 19-01-09 12:38

Geplaatst: 19-01-09 12:38

I think it might be helpfull to visit the website of the NRPS which is www.nrps.nl i think they know who was the owner here in holland. There is a phonenumber on the website which you can call.
good luck with it!

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