Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

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patrickab
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Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst door de TopicStarter : 16-11-05 12:02

Answer from the rancher...


A few long lines directed to those of you who love to make a storm in a
glass of water.

Ranch Cercós has thousands of happy customers every year who do lots of different sports including horse-riding.

The horse section, over the last 20 years has offered an excellent
opportunity to hundreds of young people from all over Europe and beyond to travel and learn something about the catalan way of life, culture and language. It turns out to be a positive and very enjoyable experience for most. and I can tell you, quite a few of them keep coming back every season.

They are spirited with a passion , with a brain, and displa the right
attitude towards fellow trainees or people of different nationalities
working on the ranch(including Asian, European of South American descent).

I personally enjoy taking them on occasinal flight tours on our plane around the region, water skiing or big game fishing on our boat or to national or local fiestas in Barcelona or Sitges. We consider them our friends, and we do not refer to them as"trainee" or "tourists"

Of course, these options are not available on your day of arrival. Young
people often think that everyone ought to treat them like mom and dad, clear up their mess and pick up their dirty plates behind them. This false
illusion is short-lived. In the real world, you have to show your
credentials, skills and personal resources. This is the purpose of the whole exercice.

Having say that, we cannot take everyone onboard and therefore we do not encourage daddy´s girls to come and spend a single day on the ranch as a means to break away from parents, boyfriends or personal problems, taking us for a free holiday destination and cheating about their age, weight and experience with horses. We give plenty of second chances. If you cannot even tie up a horse, you can be forgiven by just telling that you are willing to learn.. And do not tell me about evolution or generation gap, I am a father of a 12 years old and she can give the spin to most of this gang of rotten apple in their twenties. But this is another debate that focuses more on educational values and priorities. The fact is that if you feed your
children with straw, you take the risk to turn them into donkeys..

So keep up the good job, Evelien, Tatiana and company, telling everyone how nasty Vivian is, making you work so hard with the boys around the swimming pool, feeding the horse twice a day and starving you to death despite all the time you spent around the clock in the kitchen, cooking fancy recipes( and judging from the weight you all put on you could hardly call the red cross to your rescue) with an industrial fridge and freezer packed with food. By the way, we do not handcuff young girls on the ranch and a 50? flight ticket home is no big deal if you feel it is not the right place for you.

Well, that's all from me. My final advice..Gear up for the real life and
good luck to all.

PridesRanch

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:05

Ok, ik heb wat gemist.

Ellebel
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Re: Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

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Kelloriejj
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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:25

Do you think everything is good now??? The story form VarroIsLief was loud and clear... Good luck with search for trainee's... It will be a hard for you to find a trainee, because the story was very nasty and discusting... pffff idiots...

op mijn beste engels

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:30

Vivian, dit lijkt me niet zo slim

Ylana

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Re: Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:32

Nu op mijn beste engels:

F*ck You and I hope You that You're Ranch doesn't find any more trainees You people can mis treat!
And treat You're horses better!

Djilna

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:33

Dit is niet Vivian maar die vriend/partner van haar (aangezien hij schrijft dat hij vader is van een 12 jarige dochter )

IcePrincess

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:33

You really think they way you've treathed me, and especially the last couple of day's of my stay, was good?

If you can say that I was lazy, not nice, didn't do what you've askt me to do, and also mean it, than there's really something wrong with you.

I don't say everything was bad, but overall it was quite horrible. Yes, the spanish was is verry different of the duth way of 'horsework' at the time I respected it, but looking back it wasn't right.

I didn't lie about anything, and still won't lie, just telling my story. And I really don't mind if you tell you're side of the story, but please, just tell the truth than .

Ylana

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Re: Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:36

Dat kan hij niet IcePrincess!
Dan zou die Ranch binnen de korste keren kopje ondergaan!

Caira
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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:37

If there were only one or two stories it could have been coincidence. But there are still turning up more and more stories about the way you treat your staff.

Kelloriejj
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Re: Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:37

Ylana schreef:
Nu op mijn beste engels:

F*ck You and I hope You that You're Ranch doesn't find any more trainees You people can mis treat!
And treat You're horses better!


jij doet het beter dan mij in het engels

Djilna

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:38

Hello Friend of Vivian,

I've heard from many people how bad it is on your ranch for trainees and horses. And I also believe the stories of horse buyers and sellers.
So forget it if you think that I will believe you...

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:39

irish_lady schreef:
If there were only one or two stories it could have been coincidence. But there are still turning up more and more stories about the way you treat your staff.


Indeed! There are too many stories...

I think your ranch could be in serious trouble...

Kelloriejj
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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:39

wat een lef, hij slaat dicht

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:40

Kelloriejj schreef:
wat een lef, hij slaat dicht


Huh? Snap u niet

Kelloriejj
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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 12:42

animal care in spain??? i think we should call them!
the story's i've read, were horrible...
And that were many stories! You make me sick..!

@ QUELLIAN :::

hij slaat dicht>>> Hij durft geen reactie te geven

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:05

Zijn er hier al zoveel topics over geweest? Kan iemand voor mij de links doormailen? Het enig topic wat ik erover ken is het topic waar deze man op reageert.

Kelloriejj
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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:07

verder weet ik het ook niet maar ik heb zo onderling verhalen gehoord... en die waren niet echt fijn :s
Laatst bijgewerkt door Kelloriejj op 16-11-05 13:07, in het totaal 1 keer bewerkt

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Re: Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:07

I guess it's the easiest way to defend yourself from the allegations and stories people have been telling about the Ranch - oh no, it's not your fault at all, all these people are spoilt princesses who simply could not deal with the daily life on your ranch!

Judging by the number of different people who have bad experiences with your ranch, it really wouldn't hurt if you looked at yourself and the way you do business and wondered if perhaps there are some things you could change for the good. Do people have a realistic image of what life will be like as a trainee? If you want useful people, giving them that image is your task. And are the conditions as fair as you cal them, or is that just something you like to think, allowing you to label every negative story as a crying lament by a spoilt princess?

"Hand in eigen boezem steken" is what they call that in Dutch. Use critique to see how you can improve yourself, rather than slagging off the critic. You never know, it might do your business good.

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ArwenLune schreef:
I guess it's the easiest way to defend yourself from the allegations and stories people have been telling about the Ranch - oh no, it's not your fault at all, all these people are spoilt princesses who simply could not deal with the daily life on your ranch!

Judging by the number of different people who have bad experiences with your ranch, it really wouldn't hurt if you looked at yourself and the way you do business and wondered if perhaps there are some things you could change for the good. Do people have a realistic image of what life will be like as a trainee? If you want useful people, giving them that image is your task. And are the conditions as fair as you cal them, or is that just something you like to think, allowing you to label every negative story as a crying lament by a spoilt princess?

"Hand in eigen boezem steken" is what they call that in Dutch. Use critique to see how you can improve yourself, rather than slagging off the critic. You never know, it might do your business good.


_/-o_

amen!

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Re: Answer from the rancher, the other side of the story!

Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:17

Dit is jullie advertentie wat de trainees betreft:
http://www.marktplaza.nl/Trainees-wante ... 278906.php
Citaat:
We are looking for a few trainees to work with our horses
coming winter! We have different type of horses, young
horses, foals, yearlings and horses that need to be broken
in. Arabians, Spanish horses, Merens horses and crosses.
I
need people with who have lots of experience with different
kind of horses, taking care of the horses, training on the
hand and under saddle.

The internship we offer is normally
a period of at least two months. You will have your own
room, or need to share it with max 1 other trainee and a
general bathroom for the trainees. It is possible to go to
town every week to check e-mail, do shopping or whatever.
Once a week you can do your laundry.

For more information
you can send an e-mail to levendige ad hotmail.com or call
0034 66 25 4 7575

Hope to see you soon!


Ik lees hier niets over koken voor gasten, schoonmaken van gastenkamers, enz, enz....

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:23

In English:
Everyone please, calm down. I see some very nasty replys in this topic. Do not personally attack people. Patrickab is free to tell his side of the story. However, I do encourage him to take the complaints of about ten different 'spoiled princesses' a little more seriously than he does at this moment. And I want to make perfectly clear that he can not place any advertisements for his ranch on this site.

In Dutch:
Aan iedereen: even dimmmen aub. Schelden is ook in dit topic niet de bedoeling, ga mensen niet persoonlijk aanvallen, hoe kwaad je ook bent. Patrickab is vrij om zijn kant van het verhaal op deze site te vertellen. Ik raad hem alleen wel aan om de klachten van verschillende 'verwende prinsesjes' sereiuzer te nemen dan hij op dit moment doet. En ik wil heel helder maken dat er op deze site Géén advertenties meer geplaatst mogen worden voor Ranch Ceros.

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:26

hmm oke ik hou me wel rustig dan ellende...
Maar toch... vind het gewoon niet kunnen... Oeps, daar ga ik weer...

Esmeralda

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:26

wat heerlijk dat het allemaal in het nederlands word vertaald. De nederlands versie heb ik gelezen. Maar ik begrijp dat de eigenaar in kwestie zich gaat verdedigen??? Dat is niet zo handig op bokt, wij hebben onze menig altijd direct klaar hihi. Wil iemand mij de vertaling toezenden of het eerste gedeelte vertalen??(denk dat er vele met mij dat erg prettig vinden)

** o we waren bijna tegelijk**

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Link naar dit bericht Geplaatst: 16-11-05 13:34

@ Esmeralda, ik wil het wel even door de vertaalmachine gooien, maar dan krijg je wel een beetje een onsamenhangend verhaal, maar is het wel in grove lijnen te volgen. Heb geen tijd om zelf te vertalen (zit op m'n werk ).